Netflix (NFLX) Q3 2024 Earnings Preview
Netflix Inc. (NASDAQ: NFLX) will report Q3 2024 results on Thursday, October 17, 2024. Here are the key numbers that we’re watching.
Figure 1: Netflix: Consensus Expectations for Q3, Past Earnings Surprises, Revisions, and CAGR
Netflix Q3 2024 Earnings Preview and Outlook
Q3 2024 expectations: Revenues are expected to be supported by continued paid-sharing, growth of the ads business, and further monetization. After the disappointment in Q2 2024, questions remain around the investments in the ad tier, increased competition, and its impact on paid sharing.
According to Visible Alpha consensus, the 28% margin is expected to be driven by total revenues of $9.8 billion and operating income of $2.7 billion in Q3 2024. These estimates have not changed much since last quarter. These projections are driven by consistent expectations for U.S. streaming and an uptick in ad-supported revenue. It is worth highlighting that since the July quarter, ad-supported revenue has moved back up to $549 million, but is still lower than the initial expectation at the beginning of FY 2024.
While there does not appear to be a meaningful shift in overall top-line and operating profit expectations from the July quarter, earnings estimates have moved up from $5.05/share to now $5.12/share.
The stock has traded up around 13% to $727 since last quarter’s release, driven by the resilience in the company’s net adds. Will the outlook for the rest of 2024 support the upward trajectory of Netflix’s stock price?
Q4 2024 expectations: Currently, the Q4 2024 revenue is expected to be $10 billion. Revenues are expected to be supported by price increases, growth of the ads business, and further monetization. Operating margin is expected to be 21%, a year-over-year improvement of 400 bps.
FY 2024 expectations: The company expects to grow revenues by increasing engagement trends and reducing churn with a more diverse entertainment offering. Gaming and the growth of ads could be key drivers in H2 2024. According to consensus, analysts expect the company to generate a 26% margin from revenue of $38.7 billion and $10 billion in operating profit in FY 2024, which has not changed much since April 2024 and is in line with Netflix’s guidance.
Figure 2: The Direction of Key Netflix Estimates
Google Cloud Summit: A Preview of Google Cloud Margin Expectations
Alphabet Inc.’s (NASDAQ: GOOGL) Google Cloud CEO, Thomas Kurian, shared his thoughts on AI innovation at the Google Cloud Summit. Kurian emphasized the importance of supporting startups and highlighted several ways Google Cloud is doing this. He highlighted that Google Cloud is giving startups focused on building foundational models access, both, to the entire technology stack and the developer ecosystem. Kurian noted that it is not simply the chips, but also the software layer that is helpful and of interest to startups. He explained that there are a number of startups building applications on the platform. This should be a longer-term positive for Google Cloud’s growth.
Since last year, Alphabet has shifted gears on its AI strategy. Google Cloud has continued to show improvements. However, the size and profitability of Google Cloud still trails AWS and Azure. While innovations in the chips and the models have excited the market about the potential for GenerativeAI (GAI) applications, there has not been much innovation for the end user. Will startups drive the next generation of GAI applications and growth for Google Cloud?
Google Cloud CMO Alison Wagonfeld with CEO Thomas Kurian at Google Cloud Summit ‘24
Operating Margin Expectations
One of the key aspects of the Alphabet investment story is that Google Cloud continues to improve its operating profit margin. This business broke even and generated a 5.2% operating profit margin in FY 2023, or $33 billion in revenue and $1.7 billion in operating profit. Based on Visible Alpha consensus, Google Cloud is now expected to generate a 10.4% operating margin, up from 9.8% in July in Q3 2024. By the end of FY 2024, consensus now expects an 11% operating profit margin, or $4.7 billion in operating income on $42 billion in revenue. However, there is some debate about the Google Cloud business, with operating profit estimates ranging from $3.8 billion to $5.8 billion. Longer term, Google Cloud is expected to achieve a 15.5% operating profit margin by the end of FY 2026.
While the margin improvement for Google Cloud was positive in FY 2023 and H1 of FY 2024, it remains far from the profitability of the company’s main Cloud competitors. Microsoft delivered a 45.1% operating profit margin in its Intelligent Cloud business and Amazon’s AWS segment generated a 35.5% margin last quarter. However, it is worth noting that both Microsoft Intelligent Cloud and Amazon AWS are each expected to see margins pull back going forward, according to Visible Alpha consensus.
The Google Cloud innovations supporting startups are designed to add value to the user’s existing workflows by helping to make the user more efficient and productive with their existing tools. However, it is unclear how long it will take for these AI product innovations to drive revenues and profitability in the Google Cloud business segment, especially among small enterprise and individual users. Google Cloud will need to deepen its monetization with all users to move the needle meaningfully on operating profit, which may prove challenging given AWS and Azure’s size and profitability in cloud and legacy tools.
Google Cloud Consensus Estimates
Alphabet’s Key Financial Items
Final Thoughts
The development and adoption of GAI is in its infancy, but evolving quickly. Google Cloud seems poised to benefit from this technology shift. However, how the profitability of this business will ultimately shake out will be a critical long-term investment question for the stock. Will Google Cloud be able to carve out a more profitable place in the cloud landscape and move more quickly toward the 27% margin Amazon achieved last year for AWS?
Meta Connect 2024
Key Takeaways and Questions
- According to Visible Alpha consensus, Reality Labs’ sales are projected to hit $2.2 billion by the end of FY 2024, but losses are expected to continue.
- Priced at $299.99, will Quest 3S start to increase sales and reduce losses?
- Smart glasses are taking off.
- How long will it take for this category to grow sales and break even?
- Llama 3.2 is multi-modal.
- What impact could this have on Meta’s business model?
Meta Platforms (NASDAQ: META) hosted its Meta Connect 2024 conference on September 25-26, 2024. In the opening keynote speech, CEO Mark Zuckerberg highlighted new product innovations all geared toward making people feel closer and strengthening relationships. On the hardware side, the company showcased a faster, smoother Quest 3S VR headset and a prototype of an upgraded pair of smart glasses called Orion. In addition, Zuckerberg discussed the new Meta AI innovations.
Meta Quest 3S
Quest 3S Mixed Reality Headset
Meta’s Quest 3S mixed reality headset will ship on October 15 for $299.99, down from $499.99, a fraction of Apple’s $3,499. The game, Batman Arkham Shadow, will be included with Quest 3/3S this fall. Will these improvements and the $200 price drop help to stimulate sales this holiday season?
Improvements and optimization to the tech stack supported the Quest 3S mixed reality experience upgrade. The passthrough has also improved, but probably still trails Apple’s Vision Pro. Meta expanded its content and will integrate Dolby Atmos. Meta’s social apps have been rebuilt to benefit from the mixed reality experience. While gaming and consumer markets are important, Meta’s objective is to lay the groundwork for a general computing platform within the headset and to bring in many more users.
In addition to its core segments, Meta is also going after the enterprise market. Quest is going to be a natural extension of the PC. Meta has been working with Microsoft on remote desktop to take mixed reality to the workplace at scale.
How big could this opportunity be for Meta?
Orion
Smart Glasses
CEO Zuckerberg highlighted that smart glasses are taking off faster than expected. The next-gen smart glasses featured enhancements, including live translation and multi-modal integration to the AI assistant.
While these improvements to the Ray-bans are interesting, the next-generation augmented reality holographic glasses prototype, Orion, seemed to steal the show. A video showed Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang trying out Orion and commenting on the functionality and lightweight.
Orion and Nvidia
Implications for Reality Labs
With these new product releases, how they will help to drive revenues and reduce losses in this segment will be key. Reality Labs has been a meaningful drag on the company’s total operating profit margin with little visibility into when this drag will improve.
According to Visible Alpha consensus, Reality Labs’ sales expectations have been trending down. Since last quarter, analyst estimates for Reality Labs revenues have declined from $2.3 billion to $2.2 billion for FY 2024 and from $2.7 billion to $2.6 billion for FY 2025. In contrast, Analysts’ forecasts of operating losses at Reality Labs have improved from -$18.9 billion to -$18.5 billion in FY 2024 and from -$21.5 billion to -$19.9 billion in FY 2025. However, there is significant debate about the future level of losses for Reality Labs and a wide range of loss estimates.
The Stack
Llama 3.2
Meta featured its stack for its open-source Llama to support developers with a set of Reference APIs designed to help drive the adoption of the Llama models. To support Open Source AI, Meta also released Llama models which include small text (1B and 3B) for edge and mobile and multi-modal (11B and 90B) models.
The significantly declining cost was highlighted too. However, it is unclear how this will continue in the future with higher computing needs for future Llama upgrades.
Meta AI
Meta AI’s capabilities were in focus at the conference. Meta AI is an assistant to help answer questions and requests that will now be powered by Llama 3.2. CEO Zuckerberg called out that Meta AI has ~500 million users and will expand business AIs to companies.
Meta will roll out Meta AI Voice, translation, and enhanced multi-modal features that will enable users to share and ask questions in natural language. Meta AI will also expand to create content and images with AI.
Will these enhancements help to drive engagement in Meta’s family of apps, leading to higher sales in FY 2025?
META Segment Revenue and Income Consensus
Oracle CloudWorld 2024
Oracle Corp. (NASDAQ: ORCL) hosted CloudWorld on September 12, 2024. Here are some of our key observations from the sessions.
Oracle CloudWorld
Oracle hosted CloudWorld on Thursday, September 12, 2024. There were a host of speakers from various divisions within Oracle. There was also a session with customers, including MGM Resorts, Nomura Research Institute, and Vodafone. The presentations aimed to bring the AI investment story to life and provide a comprehensive view of Oracle’s role and outlook.
The big news coming out of CloudWorld was the increase to its revenue target to over $66 billion, ahead of the consensus of $65 billion. Oracle maintained its EPS target for FY26. The company provided revenue and earnings estimates for FY29, highlighting its confidence and visibility in the direction. Currently, FY29 consensus expects revenue of $97 billion, below the >$104 billion Oracle highlighted. Will these estimates continue to move higher or does this indicate that consensus is somewhat skeptical of the outlook provided?
Oracle’s New Targets
Visible Alpha consensus estimates for revenue segments and EPS have moved up since September 9, 2024, indicating that analysts are increasingly more optimistic about the FY26 outlook.
The Direction of Oracle Estimates
Clay Magouyrk, Executive Vice President of Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, gave a comprehensive look at the Cloud business. He called out that the important message to understand is that Oracle’s multi-cloud strategy is different because OCI is partnered with other cloud service providers. This enables the same level of service and quality.
Multi-cloud Approach
Doug Kehring, head of Operations at Oracle, highlighted the practicalities of the multi-cloud approach and how this focus is key to the revenue growth story. Based on data from 451 Research, he supported his strategy by highlighting that 98% of enterprises use two or more clouds. With the addition of AWS and Google Cloud this year, he expects the workload migrations to accelerate. This strategy will drive the sales and earnings growth for FY26 and beyond.
Looking Ahead
Back in the spring, Oracle shared a few interesting numbers from studies done by PWC and Grand View Research quantifying the impact of AI, estimating that AI’s predicted CAGR from 2023 to 2030 will be 37% and add $15.7 trillion to global GDP by 2030. Based on analysis from Insider Intelligence and ITU, Oracle highlighted that the adoption curve of AI has been much faster than smartphones and PCs.
This analysis and the outlook provided at CloudWorld suggest that momentum for generative AI adoption by enterprises may continue to be stronger than current expectations. Based on Visible Alpha consensus, Oracle estimates for its Cloud businesses have been grinding back to levels initially expected in early FY24. Could there be a catalyst in Q2?
Oracle’s Q2 Estimates
Macro and Mega Cap Tech: Meet Mrs. Watanabe
Introduction
I went to Japan this August for two weeks. In addition to meeting the intense heat, I sat down with many high-level executives, bureaucrats, and investors to discuss Japan’s future. I have been investing in Japan for many years and was surprised by my observations.
With a very favorable Yen/$ rate, it was refreshing how inexpensive everything Japanese seemed to be in dollar terms. In contrast, imported items, especially from the U.S., were pricey in Yen. Therefore it is no surprise that foreign tourists, especially from the U.S. have increased significantly, helping drive economic activity in the notoriously low-growth market. Japan is importing inflation and consumption.
As the Yen weakened and the dollar strengthened, it was also no surprise that Japan’s $1.8 trillion pension fund, GPIF, has benefited from its 25% allocation to foreign equities benchmarked to MSCI ACWI. This large position benefited from significant exposure to the U.S. and a 20% concentration in U.S. mega-cap technology stocks over the past few years.
In addition, U.S. imports of computers and accessories have jumped on the back of the AI boom. U.S. companies have likely been taking advantage of the strong dollar and making investments in next-generation technology at better dollar prices, which has probably helped Japanese exporters.
Mrs. Watanabe is a term used to describe Japan’s foreign exchange investors collectively. This group is notorious for taking large positions to benefit from currency and macro moves. Given the extreme currency moves from the past two years, concerns loom about how Mrs. Watanabe and other investors may start to reposition their portfolios. Asset allocation and currencies might shift dramatically as the Fed looks poised to start a path of rate cuts in the U.S.
The Dawn of the AI Revolution
Mega-cap U.S. technology stocks have been a dominant market force since early 2023, driving a significant portion of the upside to U.S./Global indices. At the end of 2022, the Fed’s rate hikes to tame inflation were well underway, supporting dollar strength. Shares bottomed and many of the largest technology companies cut costs and trimmed their headcount in early 2023, while investing in the next generation of AI. Since then, the AI revolution has taken the markets by storm. Companies, like Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) and Super Micro Computer (NASDAQ: SMCI), have seen their share prices explode, on the back of the massive surge in CapEx by cloud service providers.
Figure 1: Share Price Performance from January 2023 to July 2024
Top AI-exposed U.S. Technology Stocks
According to the S&P Global Market Intelligence economics team, “imports of computers and computer accessories, collectively, have increased by 60% since December to all-time highs. These two categories, along with semiconductors, account for about half of the 7% increase in nominal imports since December. This is related to massive investments U.S. high-tech companies are making in AI and businesses and consumers upgrading.”
In addition, U.S. technology companies are likely taking advantage of the strong dollar to make these investments. These companies may be able to procure and import next-generation computers and accessories from Japan at lower dollar prices.
Figure 2: Imports of Computers
AI-exposed Companies at Crossroads: Squaring Revenues and CapEx
Since January 2024, SMCI + NVDA have driven over $100 billion in upward revisions to AI-exposed revenues. While these two companies have been a driving force behind the AI theme, Alphabet (NASDAQ: GOOG), Amazon (NASDAQ: AMZN), Dell (NYSE: DELL), and Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT) have seen estimates increase this year. Expectations have risen and the investment community has been grappling with how best to assess the risk and reward of the AI theme.
Figure 3: AI-exposed Revenue Revisions at Top U.S. Technology Firms
While revenues are likely to benefit from AI exposure, the cost structure and cash flow of these technology companies has changed. Compared to previous years, expected operating expense growth slowed for most of the top AI-exposed firms since early 2023. Companies overhauled talent and reevaluated their cost structures. However, CapEx growth expectations outpaced opex since 2023, as these same companies significantly ramped investment in next-generation GAI infrastructure. With CapEx increasing at a faster pace than AI-exposed revenues, there is concern that the revenue growth from GAI may not materialize with the current expectations.
At the moment, these stocks appear to be at a nexus, as analysts debate whether or not expectations will grind higher on the broad adoption of Generative AI (GAI), especially as Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) has now entered the race. The world is waiting to see if GAI will deliver on its promises of higher productivity in ways that will generate revenues and an ROI that will justify the significant CapEx investments.
Figure 4: CapEx Growth Relative to Sales Growth Expectations
Shifting U.S. Macro Tides from July 2024
Since the beginning of July 2024, many of the mega-cap U.S. technology stocks that had been outperforming started to see underperformance, especially those most geared to the AI growth story. Mega-cap technology stocks missing expectations in their earnings releases and outlooks were punished in the most recent quarter. Many questions started to emerge about the drivers of the performance and the direction of expectations and upside going forward.
Figure 5: Share Price Performance from July 2024 to September 2024
Compounding the complexity of these investment dynamics, the macro backdrop has started to shift and has added to the already fragile situation with the U.S. mega-cap technology stocks. S&P Global Market Intelligence projects September 2024 for the first U.S. rate cut. In the U.S., inflation expectations have come down and there are concerns about the resilience of the labor market, which has contributed to some weakness in the dollar. This dollar decline may impact the investment in AI, as imports of computers and accessories may become more expensive in U.S. dollar terms going forward.
Figure 6: S&P Global Market Intelligence U.S. Outlook
The Japan Factor: Significant Exposure to U.S. Mega Cap Tech
One factor that may be underappreciated by the market is the exposure of U.S. mega-cap tech to Japanese retail and institutional investors. As the Yen and Japanese growth receded over the past few years, Japanese investors were forced to look overseas for returns. This likely led to buying
in both well-known individual U.S. mega-cap technology stocks and the major U.S./global indices, which are heavily concentrated in the largest U.S. mega-cap technology stocks. Adding foreign exposure enabled Japanese investors to diversify their Yen assets both toward global growth and a strengthening U.S. dollar, as inflation surged in the U.S. This strategy has been overwhelmingly successful.
Since January 2021, the Yen has dramatically weakened from 103 to a peak low of 161 JPY for $1 USD and the S&P 500 returned around 50%, giving Japanese investors the double benefit of both stock outperformance coupled with an appreciating dollar. In addition, savvy investors have also leveraged this strategy by executing a carry trade by borrowing Yen at historically low rates and investing the proceeds in U.S. growth stocks.
Figure 7: Correlation of the Yen and the S&P 500 Index
In July, the Yen hit a low at 161/$, a level not seen in decades, leading to whispers that the Bank of Japan may move to reduce the inflation on imported goods. In addition, the weak Yen has led to a surge in exports and foreign tourists that helped drive growth and consumption in Japan’s historically anemic economy, which some suggested was leading to overheating. The U.S. saw a whopping 70% increase in tourists to Japan, which was likely driven by the weaker Yen.
Figures 8: Tourism and Key Economic Indicators
As rumored, the Bank of Japan raised interest rates for the first time in over ten years, surprising carry trade investors who did not believe it would happen. This rate move was followed by weaker-than-expected U.S. job growth, which led to a strengthening in the Yen. In addition, several key U.S. mega-cap tech earnings came in a bit below expectations leading to selling pressure. The combination of U.S. stocks and the currency both moving against carry trade investors forced selling in their positions, fueling volatility in global markets.
Since early August, the S&P 500 has stabilized, despite continued strengthening in the Yen. S&P Global Market Intelligence projects the Yen to continue to strengthen through 2026 and for the Bank of Japan to raise rates again in March 2025. This outlook may reignite volatility in U.S. mega-cap technology stocks and currency markets. However, this time it may not be prompted by a negative response to a carry trade gone wrong, but by a longer-term asset allocation decision by Japan’s retail and institutional investors.
Simply looking at the $1.8 trillion Japan Government Pension Fund (GPIF), 25% is allocated to the MSCI ACWI, approximately $450 billion. This index significantly outperformed the other asset classes, due to the 20% concentration in outperforming U.S. mega-cap technology stocks. GPIF’s approximately $90 billion exposure benefitted both from the AI theme and the strength of the U.S. dollar.
If the GPIF were to decrease its asset allocation to MSCI ACWI by 3%, that would lead to the selling of $10 billion in the U.S. mega-cap technology stocks concentrated in the MSCI ACWI.
While the exposure in GPIF is significant, it is only one example of the asset allocation impact. There is likely broad ownership of these U.S. mega caps across a variety of domestic Japanese retail and institutional investors, who have wanted to diversify their portfolios, benefit from dollar strength, and growth in the U.S. technology stocks. The full magnitude of the exposure to these stocks is difficult to aggregate and fully quantify. However, it is probably significant and may lead to future volatility.
Figures 9: Japan’s Government Pension Holds over $450 Billion in MSCI ACWI
Investment Assets and Portfolio Allocation
(Pension reserves managed by GPIF and the Pension Special Account)
GPIF Q1 2024 Asset Class Performance and MSCI ACWI Index Concentration
Cumulative Returns Since Fiscal 2001
Final Thoughts
As the U.S. tamed inflation, the global macro outlook has started to change. This month, the Fed is expected to start a series of cuts. As the world prepares for this policy shift, we are likely entering a period of a weaker dollar and slower U.S. growth. At the same time, expectations for U.S. mega-cap technology stocks have increased. Their concentration in U.S./Global indices remains significant and may lead to underperformance if these expectations are not met or exceeded. Further compounding these trends, global investors may have to revisit their existing asset allocation and position for the next two years of possibly stronger growth and currencies outside the U.S. As we move into the Q4 of this year and gear up for 2025, will the U.S. mega-cap stocks and the AI trade continue to outperform?
Dell’s Q2 2025 Earnings Review
Dell Technologies (NYSE: DELL) reported fiscal Q2 2025 results on Thursday, August 29, 2024. What happened during the release and earnings call, and what are the key points to focus on?
Dell’s Fiscal Q2 2025 Earnings Release
Dell delivered total revenues for Q2 of $25.0 billion, beating Visible Alpha’s consensus estimate of $24.1 billion by $0.9 billion, driven by strong demand for AI servers. The Infrastructure Solutions Group (ISG) segment saw its Q2 revenue surge to $11.6 billion, $1.0 billion ahead of the $10.6 billion consensus estimate coming into the quarter.
The company delivered a respectable AI server backlog of $3.8 billion in Q1, but it led to disappointment in the stock, due to the lack of ISG operating profit growth generated by an additional $1.7 billion in AI server shipments year over year. Dell explained on their earnings call that the headwinds the company saw in Q1 did not persist in Q2. In Q2, the company shipped $3.1 billion of AI servers and the AI server backlog remained at ~$3.8 billion. Training foundational models are still a large percentage of the pipeline. The company is ready to ship more AI servers in Q3, and this is included in the guidance.
The ISG segment’s non-GAAP gross margin came in at 33.2% in Q2, a bit below the consensus of 33.6% and down from 37.3% in Q2 2023. Despite this decline in gross margin, the ISG operating profit margin came in at 11%, ahead of the 10% expected. ISG’s operating profit was expected to generate nearly $1.1 billion in Q2 2024 but, instead, reported $1.3 billion, ahead of last year’s $1.05 billion. In addition, Dell expects the ISG operating margin to continue to improve in the H2.
Figure 1: Revisions of Dell estimates
The Outlook
Near-term growth
For fiscal Q3 2025, Dell guided to $24.0-25.0 billion in total revenue, in line with expectations of $24.7 billion for Q3. The ISG segment revenue is projected to make up $11.3 billion, and to see its margin improve quarter over quarter. The company called out improvements in the storage business and operating expense scaling. The ISG consensus margin for Q3 is expected to be 11.7%, up from 11.0% in Q2.
Long-term outlook
Dell guided FY 2025 revenues to $95.5-98.5 billion, up from $93.5-97.5 billion, in line with the $96.4 billion expected by analysts ahead of Q2. In addition, the company highlighted that ISG will deliver 11-14% long-term margins. Currently, Visible Alpha consensus is projecting ISG’s operating profit margin to jump from 8% in Q1 this fiscal year to over 12% by the end of fiscal year 2026.
Looking further out, analysts remain bullish on the demand for AI servers. Based on six sources, analysts expect to see AI server revenue generate $10.6 billion in FY 2025 and to expand to $13.8 billion in revenue in FY 2026. ISG revenue is expected to grow to $51.3 billion in FY 2026, with nearly all of the year-over-year increase coming from the AI servers. ISG profitability is expected to exceed 11.0% operating profit margin this year and to increase to 12.0% by FY 2026. How long will it take to return to the previous 13% levels?
According to Visible Alpha consensus, EPS is expected to grow nearly 20% from $7.86/share in FY 2025 to $9.39/share in FY 2026. Estimates range from $8.75/share to $10.09/share, putting the FY 2026 P/E consensus at 12x, and in the 11x-13x range.
DELL stock has traded down around 32% since last quarter’s May earnings release, but is up 4% since last week’s most recent announcement on August 29, 2024. Will the ramp in AI servers continue? Will ISG’s profitability return to beat expectations and be a catalyst in H2 2025?
Figure 2: Dell consensus estimates
Nvidia’s Q2 2025 Earnings Review
Nvidia Corp. (NASDAQ: NVDA) reported fiscal Q2 2025 results on Wednesday, August 28, 2024. What happened during the release and earnings call, and what are the key points to focus on?
Nvidia’s Fiscal Q2 2025 Earnings Release
Nvidia delivered total revenues for Q2 of $30.0 billion, beating Visible Alpha’s consensus estimate of $28.7 billion by $1.3 billion, driven by continued revenue growth of Nvidia’s Data Center segment. The segment saw its Q2 revenue surge to $26.3 billion, $1.3 billion ahead of the $25.0 billion consensus estimate coming into the quarter and capturing all of the beat to expectations.
This revenue surge has continued to be driven by strong demand for Hopper GPUs, particularly from cloud service providers. On the earnings call, the company highlighted that Hopper supply and availability have improved. Blackwell demand is well above supply and is expected to continue into next year.
However, the Data Center segment’s non-GAAP gross margin dipped to 78% in Q2, in line with consensus. This muted the magnitude of the surprise to the EPS line with non-GAAP diluted EPS of $.68/share, exceeding the consensus of $.65 by 4.6%, less than previous beats. In addition, Nvidia announced approval of a $50 billion buyback, which some viewed as a bearish sign.
Figure 1: Nvidia estimate trends
The Outlook
Near-term growth
For fiscal Q2 2025, Nvidia guided $1 billion ahead of expectations to $33.1 billion in total revenue, with analysts now projecting the Data Center segment to make up $29.1 billion, up from $28.0 billion. In addition, Nvidia guided total gross margin to continue to be around 75% levels, down 50bps from 75.5% last quarter, driven by a mix shift in the Data Center business.
Looking further out, analysts remain bullish on the Data Center segment. Since the Q2 release, analysts have increased their full-year Data Center revenue estimates by another $1 billion for FY 2025 to $110.6 billion, driven by continued optimism around GPU demand and the release of Blackwell. According to Visible Alpha consensus, Data Center revenues for FY 2026 are now expected to jump to $168 billion, up from $144 billion on May 22, 2024, with consensus EPS increasing over 15% to $4.10/share. It is worth noting that since last year, Data Center revenue revisions for Nvidia have increased by over $200 billion and reflect where current expectations are for the company’s outlook.
Figure 2: Nvidia Data Center revenue revisions
On the earnings call, the company highlighted that the new Blackwell production ramp has been pushed out and is now scheduled to begin in the fourth quarter and continue into FY 2026. In Q4, Nvidia expects to get several billion dollars in Blackwell revenue. He also noted that ”demand for Blackwell is incredible” and that it “provides 3-5x more AI throughput in a power-limited data center than Hopper”. While analysts debate the quarterly pace and timing of the B-series and GB-series ramps, the long-term expected growth is projected to add to revenues in FY 2026 and FY 2027.
P/E debate: The range of Data Center estimates
The range of estimates has continued to narrow for the Data Center business in FY 2025, suggesting the market has increased conviction in the direction of this segment this year. For FY 2026, however, the range of estimates has narrowed slightly but remains substantial, implying that there is still significant debate about Nvidia’s growth outlook. The top-end estimate expects $212.5 billion, up from $189.9 billion, while the low-end estimate is now at $144.4 billion, up from $119.5 billion, driven by differing views about GPU demand and the ramping pace of new GPUs.
Non-GAAP diluted consensus EPS for FY 2026 is now projected to be $4.10/share, up 15% from Q1 2025. But there is a nearly $2.60/share range in expectations, from $5.46/share to $2.84/share. Current FY 2026 P/E ratios range from 23X to 44X. For FY 2027, the range expands from 17X to 68X, driven by different assumptions about the timing and magnitude of Data Center revenue growth.
NVDA stock has traded down over 6% since the earnings release, and is up nearly 24% since the Q1 release on May 22, 2024. Will the ramp of Blackwell drive the Data Center business to beat expectations in Q4 and into FY 2026?
Figure 3: Nvidia consensus estimates
Long-term growth
Huang continued to emphasize that the industry is experiencing a major change. He expressed his optimism about the Data Center’s move to accelerated computing to create AI factories and noted that accelerated workloads will save power and cost. Leveraging Nvidia’s accelerated computing capabilities is enabling cloud service providers to provide a foundation for enterprises to begin integrating generative AI into their workflows. What will earnings look like in three years?
Nvidia’s Q2 2025 Earnings Preview
Nvidia Corp. (NASDAQ: NVDA) will report fiscal Q2 2025 results on Wednesday, August 28, 2024, after the market close. Here are the key numbers that we’re watching.
Figure 1: Nvidia – consensus expectations for Q2 2025, past earnings surprises, revisions, and CAGR
Nvidia’s Q2 2025 Earnings Preview
According to Visible Alpha consensus, total revenues of $28.7 billion expected for Fiscal Q2 2025 have not moved much from fiscal Q1 2025 earnings in May. Overall growth continues to be driven by optimism about the strength of Nvidia’s Data Center segment. This segment has seen its expected top-line performance for Q2 increase from a mere $8.8 billion in January 2023 to its current projection of $28.7 billion, up over 3x. This revenue surge has been driven by strong demand for its GPUs from cloud service providers, and the move to accelerated computing in the data centers for AI.
More recently, the Data Center segment’s expected revenues in Q2 edged up slightly higher from $24.7 to $25.0, according to consensus. While the pace of analysts’ upward revisions to the Data Center segment has moderated since the Q4 release in late February, it will be important to see how Nvidia guides the market for Q2 and the rest of FY 2025, and to what extent higher pricing and volumes will be expected to continue. In particular, the outlook for Blackwell will likely be important. It is worth noting that the consensus gross profit for the Data Center segment for FY 2025 has decreased by $3 billion since last quarter, reflecting lower expectations for Q4 2025.
Currently, there is significant debate about the performance of the Data Center segment. Based on Visible Alpha consensus, this business is projected to generate $25.0 billion in revenues in Q2 2025. For FY 2025, Visible Alpha consensus for this segment has increased over $12.0 billion to $105.9 billion since the Q4 2024 release in February. However, the estimates now range from $99.2 billion to $120.8 billion, a significant narrowing from the February range of $65.4 billion to $121.2 billion. The FY 2026 expected Data Center revenue range from $128.8 billion to $215.3 billion remains significant, causing the expected FY 2026 consensus P/E to be 33x and to range from 23x to 45x.
The stock has traded up around 37% since the May release, and is up around 93% since the February release. Could the Q2 release provide the next positive catalyst for the stock or are expectations largely priced in for now?
Figure 2: Nvidia consensus estimates
Figure 3: Nvidia’s key financial items
Big Tech Earnings Reviews: Meta, Microsoft, Amazon & Apple
Big Tech companies — Meta (NASDAQ: META), Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT), Amazon (NASDAQ: AMZN), and Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) — reported their latest earnings. Here’s a recap of those earnings, some key takeaways, and the resulting shifts in analysts’ estimates, according to Visible Alpha consensus.
Summary of Earnings
For the mega-cap tech companies, this earnings season has been dominated by mixed results around the core businesses and investing in generative AI (GAI). The dynamics of juggling talent and investment in multiple layers of the stack have added complexity to the business fundamentals. The mega-cap firms are all, in their own way, enhancing aspects of infrastructure, building off the existing large language models (LLMs), and supporting an environment for creating new GAI apps. However, given the strong pace of both CapEx and OpEx spending, there has been some concern that revenues have not grown in tandem and expectations have become too high.
When will revenue growth begin to expand as rapidly as expenses?
CapEx and OpEx Snapshot
Earnings Overview: META, MSFT, AMZN, AAPL
Meta Platforms’ Q2 2024 Earnings
According to Visible Alpha consensus, total revenues for Q2 were in line with expectations at $39.1 billion, driven by solid performance in the Family of Apps segment, especially in the U.S. and Europe. However, operating profit exceeded expectations by around $350 million at $14.9 billion, driven by resilience in the Family of Apps.
The company’s revenue outlook for Q3 was in line with expectations, but full-year expense guidance was better than expectations. Consensus now expects the Q3 operating profit to be $15.9 billion, nearly $1 billion higher than pre-Q levels, driven by higher profitability at the Family of Apps. For 2024, post-earnings expectations for operating income from the Family of Apps have increased by almost $2.0 billion to $82.5 billion, driven by lower expenses in the business. In addition, the projected losses from Reality Labs for 2024 have remained flat since the earnings release.
In addition, CEO Mark Zuckerberg highlighted that the company will continue to invest in the infrastructure to support Generative AI because it is expected to drive marketing and customer engagement across the Family of Apps. CapEx came in below consensus for the quarter and is projected to be at the higher end of their initial FY guidance for H2 2024 and in line with expectations. On the earnings call, Meta explained that CapEx will further increase in 2025, but based on comments from the CFO, the company plans to remain flexible and disciplined around its spending.
META stock has been an outperformer year to date, up nearly 40%, but has pulled back a bit on the tech sell-off. Will Meta remain disciplined in H2 2024 and 2025 and remain resilient?
Meta Platforms Revisions
Meta Platforms Consensus Estimates
Microsoft’s Fiscal Q4 2024 Earnings
According to Visible Alpha consensus, total revenues for Q4 were in line with expectations, coming in at $64.7 billion, driven by the Intelligent Cloud segment, which made up over 45% of total revenues and over 50% of total operating income. The profitability of the Intelligent Cloud business beat expectations by over 100 bps in the quarter. Ahead of Q4 2024, a consensus of 14 analysts for the Intelligent Cloud segment’s operating profit margin was 44%, but Microsoft delivered a 45.1% margin, finishing out FY 2024 with a better-than-expected 47% margin.
In the earnings call, Management highlighted that AI and Cloud products will continue to drive growth. However, the high expectations projected initially seem to be coming down. For 2025, Azure’s post-earnings consensus revenue edged down slightly. In addition, the overall Intelligent Cloud margin is expected to decrease nearly 170 bps year-over-year to 45.4%. The operating profit margin for this business segment is projected to remain at 45-46% levels till the end of FY 2027. Will the generative AI investments continue to drive upside to fundamentals in 2025 or have growth and margins peaked in 2024?
CapEx numbers increased by more than $2 billion expected in Q4 2024 to $13.9 billion. According to consensus projections, CapEx estimates have climbed $13.6 billion from $45.4 billion in January 2024 to currently $59 billion for FY 2025, up significantly from FY 2019 and outpacing peers. Coming out of this quarter, the 2025 CapEx estimate has increased another $4.5 billion, moving from $54.4 billion to $59 billion. Since January 2024, the consensus CapEx estimate for FY 2026 has moved up from $48.3 billion to $62.4 billion, increasing over $14 billion and demonstrating the strong pace of investment for AI platforms and tools.
Microsoft stock has been up 8.6% year-to-date, but has been an underperformer post-earnings. Could the Q1 be a catalyst for the stock?
Microsoft Revisions
Microsoft Consensus Estimates
Amazon’s Q2 2024 Earnings
Total revenues for Q2 were over $2 billion below consensus, driven by lower revenues in North America and International retail, but were offset by better-than-expected performance at AWS.
The North American retail operating margin increased to 5.6%, but was below the consensus expectation of 5.9%. After the Q1, consensus moved to a more upbeat 6-7% level outlook for the rest of H2 2024, but after the Q2, those expectations have now come down, especially for Q3.
AWS margin came in very strong at 35.5% in Q2, well ahead of the consensus estimate of 29%, driven by a combination of managing costs and a change in the estimated useful life of their servers. For 2024, analysts are now expecting a 34.4% margin, up from 28.3% at the beginning of the year. The company expects AWS growth to continue, driven by high demand for GAI.
The company guided to revenue of $154-159 billion, in line with consensus of $158.4 billion, and to operating profit of $11.5-15 billion, which came in below consensus of $15.7 billion, disappointing shareholders. The stock traded down 10% after the Q2 release. Could the retail business surprise to the upside in the H2 2024 or have retail margins peaked this year?
CapEx continued to increase in the quarter. Consensus for 2024 is now expected to be $70 billion, up over $5 billion since Q1. CapEx is projected to increase in 2025 to $75 billion, up significantly from $52 billion in 2023.
Amazon Revisions
Amazon Consensus Estimates
Apple’s Fiscal Q3 2024 Earnings
Total revenues for Q3 were in line with Visible Alpha consensus of $94.3 billion. Revenues of $45.1 billion from iPhone in Q3 were down 1% year-over-year. Based on consensus, Q3 iPhone 15 units were in line at 35 million, with estimates ranging from 29 million to 38 million units. China continues to decline, but this has been well understood by the market.
Overall full-year iPhone revenue expectations have started to improve post-Q3 2024. Currently, Q4 is expected to deliver $45 billion in iPhone sales and $200 billion for 2024, a small increase post-Q2.
While iPhone sentiment has come down since the beginning of the year, expectations for the high-margin Services segment and for total operating profit have remained consistent. In Q3, the Services segment delivered $24.2 billion, up 14% year over year and slightly better than consensus. Gross margin for the Services segment was a solid 74%, significantly higher than the 35.3% gross margin for Products, which was down 130 bps sequentially. The company said that it continues to see increased customer engagement, with the Apple ecosystem supporting the future growth of the Services business. Based on consensus, Services is expected to hit $118 billion at the end of FY 2026, up over $22 billion from this year’s estimate of $96.4 billion.
Vision Pro delivered another set of results this quarter, in line with expectations. For the full year, consensus revenue estimates for the Vision Pro have ticked up from an initial consensus projection of around $900 million to a current $1.2 billion.
The stock has traded up 3% around the Q2 release, and up a strong 30% since the Apple Intelligence announcement at WWDC, outperforming the S&P 500. Could iPhone upgrades start to exceed expectations in the H2 2024 or will it be a 2025 story?
Apple Revisions
Apple Consensus Estimates
Big Tech Earnings Reviews: Netflix and Alphabet
Big Tech companies — Netflix (NASDAQ: NFLX) and Alphabet (NASDAQ: GOOGL) — reported their latest earnings in July 2024. Here’s a recap of those earnings releases, some key takeaways, and the resulting shifts in analysts’ estimates, according to Visible Alpha consensus.
Netflix and Alphabet: Is the Ad landscape shifting?
Netflix and Alphabet missed expectations in a few key areas, leading to stock price underperformance since the earnings releases. At Netflix, while Q2 was solid, the Q3 revenue guidance came in a bit below consensus. At Alphabet, YouTube revenues came in below consensus, while Other Bets and Unallocated losses increased more than expected in Q2, leading to lower Q3 estimates.
Based on data from the Kagan Media and Telecom Summit, the environment for Netflix and YouTube looks to be getting tougher. While consumers are not spending more time on digital media, they have been increasing the number of digital services used. In 2019, consumers used 5 services, but this increased by over 50% to now 8 services, driven by SVOD (Netflix, Disney+) and FAST (Tubi, Roku). Furthermore, the Instream Video Ad market is expected to grow increasingly more crowded. Could this potentially tougher landscape explain some of the issues facing Netflix and YouTube? Could Amazon and Meta’s earnings and outlooks also be impacted?
Netflix Q2 and Outlook
Q2 performance: Netflix Inc. (NASDAQ: NFLX) reported Q2 2023 results on Thursday, July 18, 2024. Q2 revenue of $9.6 billion was slightly ahead of consensus estimates, driven by strong net adds. The company reported 8 million new subscribers, driven by overseas regions. The UCan market added 1.45 million new subscribers, which was down 3.3%, while APAC and LATAM showed strong double-digit increases. Netflix delivered a Q2 operating profit of $2.6 billion and a 27% operating profit margin, slightly ahead of consensus estimates coming into the quarter.
While the Company raised guidance, its new revenue outlook for Q3 came in below expectations. Pressure seems to be coming from Paid Sharing and the Ad Tier. The stock has underperformed since reporting on July 18, 2024.
Q3 2024 expectations: The company guided Q3 to 14% year-over-year growth with revenue of $9.7 billion, a bit below consensus estimates of $9.8 billion. Revenues are expected to be supported by the continued paid-sharing, growth of the ads business, and further monetization. Operating margin is expected to be 28.1%, a bit better than expectations.
FY 2024 expectations: The company expects to grow revenues by increasing engagement trends and reducing churn with a more diverse entertainment offering. Gaming and the growth of ads could be key drivers in H2 2024. According to consensus, analysts expect the company to generate a 26% margin from revenue of $38.7 billion and $10 billion in operating profit in FY 2024, which has not changed much since April 2024 and is in line with Netflix’s guidance.
Longer-term: Based on Visible Alpha consensus, the operating profit margin is expected to grow from 26% in FY 2024 to 32% in FY 2027. Currently, consensus estimates the operating margin to hit 30% in FY 2026, and for this to exceed 32% by the end of FY 2027, which may be aggressive given the investment likely required to scale the ads business. There is significant debate among analysts with respect to FY 2027 margin estimates, which range from 29% to 36%. This margin growth is expected to take FY 2024 expected diluted EPS from $19.13/share to $33.33/share or 20x FY 2027 P/E.
Netflix consensus revisions
Netflix Ads Business
According to the company, in Q2, the Ads tier grew 34% quarter-on-quarter and accounts for 45% of new sign-ups and continues to scale. In the Q2 shareholder letter and earnings call, management highlighted that the Ad Tier enables lower prices and additional revenue and profit.
Netflix remains upbeat about the long-term opportunity, given the size of their user base. The company continues to work on advertising business features, both to scale and to build out the technical capabilities. In particular, the company called out giving advertisers more effective ways to buy Netflix.
Long-term ad-supported revenue expectations: Currently, consensus projects total ad-supported revenue to expand to nearly $7.7 billion by the end of FY 2027, up nearly 4x from FY 2024 of $2 billion. There is a significant range of views on the magnitude of this growth. For FY 2027, analyst estimates range from $3 billion to $16.5 billion.
Netflix consensus estimates
Alphabet’s Q2 and Outlook
Q2 performance: Alphabet (NASDAQ: GOOGL) reported Q2 2023 results on Tuesday, July 23, 2024. According to consensus, total revenues for Q2 2024 of $84.7 billion were in line, driven by strength in Cloud, resilience in Search, but softness in YouTube. The sentiment around profitability started improving from Q1, but Alphabet beat expectations for operating income by nearly $1 billion, delivering $27.4 billion. Stronger-than-expected profitability in both the Services and Cloud segments were positive. However, the losses in the Other Bets and Unallocated line came in higher than consensus at -$3.3 billion in Q2 2024, diluting some of the positive impact from Search and Cloud.
The combination of YouTube coming in below consensus and the Q3 outlook has caused shares to decline nearly 10% this week.
Q3 2024 and 2024 expectations: Revenues are expected to be $86.3 billion, driven by 11% year-over-year growth in Search and YouTube and 29% in Cloud. Expectations for YouTube came down from pre-quarter consensus of 15%, suggesting a softer outlook than originally projected. Based on commentary from the call, Alphabet is expected to see margin headwinds in Q3 as investments will be pulled forward. Consensus operating profit has started to decrease slightly, indicating we may see further downward revisions to Q3 profitability. In addition, the Other Bets and Unallocated losses are expected to remain at -$3.3 billion in Q3 and Q4 2024.
Consensus capex is at close to $13 billion for Q3 and Q4 2024 and is projected to be over $50 billion for FY 2024. There is some concern that the expected revenue growth of 11-13% outlook is not enough to justify the capex more than doubling, moving from $24.6 billion at the end of 2021 to an expected $50.8 billion at the end of this year.
The Cloud margin: We have been closely monitoring the profitability trend of the Cloud business. Ahead of Q2 2024, the consensus Cloud margin was 9.6%, but this business delivered a better-than-expected 11.3% margin in Q2 2024, driven by AI products and infrastructure. As a result of the strong margin this quarter, analysts revised up estimates. Since April the expected margin has now increased by nearly 300 bps. Consensus now expects the Cloud business operating profit margin to be 10.9% for FY 2024, driven by increased profitability, especially in Q4 2024. Longer term, the Cloud business is now projected to hit a 15% margin by FY 2026.